Reagan as a visionary- debunked

Ronald Reagan as a Visionary, Exemplary President— debunked..

I do this partly out of respect to conservatives; there are great parts to the message; those people have nothing to do with that message.

Ronald Reagan was an actor who starred in movies with chimps. He was also the President of the Screen Actors Guild. He became a corporate spokesperson for GE, then Governor of California. He had a warm and fuzzy voice, very grandfatherly tone, and you couldn’t help but like to listen to the man speak. I was pro-Republican at the time, due primarily to Alex P Keaton on Family Ties.

But, remembering events from the eighties, and how they relate to now….

in the back of a discover magazine, there was an Op ed piece was questioning our funding of Iraq, since it had used gas on it’s own people. But, we were also selling weapons to the Iranians; that came to light during the Reagan adminstration, that, the US was illegally selling weapons to Iran to raise money to fund the Contras, who sought a regegime change favorable to us..
Ollie North got caught red handed shredding documents. Reagan claimed executive privilige and refused to answer any questions.

Executive privilige- i.e. The law does not apply to someone of my rank.

What would happen if you or anyone else got caught illegally selling 20 guns the next town over? To the Hatsfields, and the McCoys?

During that time they funded Afghani rebels, including Al Quaeda, and left such a great impression in ensuring their freedom from the Soviets that they hit our towers 20 years later as the story goes.

But my main problem with Reagan right now, beyond the shrines to “his legacy” are being built, is that he is the first of that trend of Republicans, who break out the budget deficit scare, and then get control of the budget and increase the deficit. Reagan ran his campagin on decreasing the deficit, then increased it, Bush I did the same, also on military spending. Republicans hammered at Clinton on the deficit- wanted the budget balanced. He succeeded*. But as soon as Republicans finally got that tax and spend democrat out of office Junior began deficit spending again, on tax cuts and increasing military spending.

So with the Republicans, are talk about deficit when you’re not in control, and create it when you are.

Ronald Reagan made a significant change- to the way unemployment is calculated… it shaves off about 10 percent- so when you’re reporting 6% it’s actually 16% and when you report 9.6 percent, it’s actually closer to 20%. It’s bad accounting, and it’s really pretty much fraud.

They also began integrating the Social Security revenue stream as part of government spending- in fact, the monies collected from it are put directly into the Federal Budget. Collecting money for a purpose and then spending it somewhere else, is pretty much fraud.

My father used to rail against Reagan’s trickle down theories of econonics.When the rich people got their taxes cut, they would immediately throw that money into the economy, and there would be even more prosperity, and taxes reciepts would be higher because the economy got better.

In fact; spending on Defense, creates jobs and big money spending, which is good for the way that they measure economy- anybody with money in big defense can live comfortably off of shares, since it always goes up. It’s a tried and true strategy for living off money you’ve been handed down.

The only problem with deficit spending on defense is your net gain is the destruction of something else. Wealth is generated when people feel empowered, inspired to create things of value to one another. Not mountains of disposable things, things that have real value and can be used again and again. Under FDR, we got bridges, roads, mass transit, mostly anything big you see came from government spending. Now we have the greatest destructive power known to man, but we don’t build anything at home.

If you account for the increase in deficit spending by the US government since Reagan; the net growth comes to near zero.
and count the real estate bubble as a net loss for the stability of the economy; lack of growth of infrastructure equals a net back slide since Reagan.

I don’t hate Reagan. It’s how it was.

I’m not so great of a person that I can say I never would have done some of the things that were done, with that same group of people it would be hard to do else.

But it needs to be different and better… and I’m not ever going to listen to someone tell me we should reflect back to his lessons.

Tax cuts aren’t much of a stimulus.

The greatest time of economic prosperity in the history of the nation came immediately following the period of greatest deficit spending.

Reagan’s record is nothing to brag about.

*Clinton pushed through NAFTA(makes it easy to outsource jobs) and repealed the Glass Stegal Act (a Depression Era measure specifically designed to prevent the EXACT type of financial blowout that happened in 2008)

2 Responses to “Reagan as a visionary- debunked”

  1. Richard Lerner Says:

    Nothing in recent history exemplifies the American need to be optimistic in spite of the evidence more than its election of Ronald Reagan, except perhaps the election of Bush Jr.

  2. Niesha S Says:

    The thing I often here in favor of republicans is how they have a plan and stick to it. No matter how stupid or bad the plan is. I think that’s why people liked Reagan. One woman once said she become republican after Reagan got some war prisoners out with his toughness. I dunno, something like that. I was born in 87.

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